[identity profile] idic-writer.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] fanficfocus
Ok, let's see if I have all of this correct so far and let's get it all in one place:

1.) We need a system to vet incoming writers: ideally, they submit a piece and at least 2 of us approve or reject it. I'm thinking this should have a minimum and maximum word length--500 to 1,000?

2.) Let's agree that everyone gives at least 30 minutes a week (your choice of day time) to read and give feedback. I'd like at least 2 other people to volunteer to moderate incoming posts with me. If you volunteer for both, then count on an hour each week, minimum.

3.) We want tags for stories, writing prompts, general writing discussion, character POV aka The Realms Bar--any others?

4.) We will ensure that genre stories/prompts are critiqued by fans of that genre.

5.) Writers who could give feedback on:

Bates Motel--[livejournal.com profile] mirrani, [livejournal.com profile] cedargrove
Celebrity Fiction--[livejournal.com profile] harmony83
CSI--[livejournal.com profile] vegawriters
Dead Zone--[livejournal.com profile] idic_writer
Dragonheart--[livejournal.com profile] mirrani
Farscape--[livejournal.com profile] vegawriters
Firefly--[livejournal.com profile] idic_writer, [livejournal.com profile] cedargrove
Halt and Catch Fire--[livejournal.com profile] cedargrove, [livejournal.com profile] mirrani
Hell On Wheels--[livejournal.com profile] mirrani, [livejournal.com profile] cedargrove
In Plain Sight--[livejournal.com profile] vegawriters
Law & Order: SVU--[livejournal.com profile] vegawriters
LOTR/Middle Earth--[livejournal.com profile] cedargrove
Once Upon A Time--[livejournal.com profile] mirrani, [livejournal.com profile] cedargrove
Sleeper Cell--[livejournal.com profile] cedargrove, [livejournal.com profile] mirrani
Sleepy Hollow--[livejournal.com profile] mirrani, [livejournal.com profile] cedargrove
Stargate--[livejournal.com profile] idic_writer
Stargate: Atlantis--[livejournal.com profile] idic_writer, [livejournal.com profile] mirrani, [livejournal.com profile] cedargrove
Stargate: Universe--[livejournal.com profile] mirrani, [livejournal.com profile] cedargrove
Star Trek--[livejournal.com profile] idic_writer, [livejournal.com profile] mirrani, [livejournal.com profile] cedargrove, [livejournal.com profile] vegawriters
The Mummy--[livejournal.com profile] cedargrove, [livejournal.com profile] mirrani
The Magicians--[livejournal.com profile] cedargrove, [livejournal.com profile] mirrani
UC: Undercover--[livejournal.com profile] cedargrove, [livejournal.com profile] mirrani
West Wing--[livejournal.com profile] vegawriters
X-Files--[livejournal.com profile] vegawriters



What do all of you have to add to this?

Date: 2017-03-20 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harmony83.livejournal.com
I think this is a great idea. I update my story quite frequently that I'm writing and would love any feedback I could get

Date: 2017-03-20 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirrani.livejournal.com
While I don't write a lot of the same fics as cedar, I am as aware of the shows and can basically be a very knowledgeable reader in all of her stuff except LOTR and firefly. Since I don't write Bates Motel or HoW fic but am listed there, I can be added to the other stuff so she's not on her own as far as reading what comes in.

I am happy to volunteer an hour of time a week to use as you see fit.

As far as tags go, do we want character posts that are not interactive (writer puts out a story, other writers comment) as well as posts that are interactive (the "character" puts out a story, other "characters" comment)?

Otherwise I've got nothing at 6am on my way to work. :p

Date: 2017-03-20 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cedargrove.livejournal.com
I was thinking through this morning, and came up with the following thoughts/questions.

1)In respect of incoming writera and vetting - what kinds of criteria will we be using to evaluate potential members? How far will we be judging grammar/texhnical skill vs details and relevance to the stated genre/fandom? Sadly, its true that some fic writers don't always write well, technically, rendering the fic unreadable, but how far do we make allowances for that, and mentor the technical if the fandom ideas are new, interesting or exciting? Similarly, what about those with English as an additional language? (Sorry, teacher head on just now.)

Related, but different, what about 'canon vs fanon'?

2) im sure I can manage at least 30 mins a week, and would be happy to pitch in with whatever you need.

3) Maybe we should start a post for tag suggestions and define what would constitute each tag?

4) I agree with your 4th point

5) just wanted to let you know that you could add me to giving feedback for Once and Sleepy Hollow. I might not write for them yes, (but getting closer for OUAT the way thinga are going), I'm familiar enough will bith to give considered feedback. Also maybe The Magicians - a show that Mirrani and I have been watching lately.
Edited Date: 2017-03-20 03:09 pm (UTC)

RE: Awesome questions!

Date: 2017-03-20 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cedargrove.livejournal.com
Good grief - pardon those horrible typos, I was using my phone while at work, and those keys are tiny and close together. I'm going to go and die of embarrassment now. LOL

RE: Ok!

Date: 2017-03-20 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirrani.livejournal.com
Cool. I know that sometimes, when I feel stuck on a character, it actually helps me to throw them OUT of their universe and ask myself, "What the hell would he do right now?" Suddenly I'm hearing them again and all is good with the world.. But then I've got this nifty little exchange between two people who would never meet and nowhere to put it... Like Michael and Rumple... Gosh I love that duo chatting around in my head. ;)

Date: 2017-03-20 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vegawriters.livejournal.com
I'm very cautious about vetting incoming writers. What is our criteria and what makes us worthy of the "vetting" idea versus newcomers? And what about those who haven't written in a long time? I think of myself here - I haven't updated a fanfic in over a year. Do we only want active writers or is a history of writing okay? And, what if you aren't in a place to be writing right now?

I don't know if anyone here is a member of GYWO but the way they do challenges, tags, posts, etc is fantastic and really encourages people to get involved.

I can probably dedicate 30 minutes a week right now, but how do we maintain those rules when/if someone gets busy?

As someone who manages a character POV type comm right now, that's what intrigues me the most because that's where most of my fic processes have been right now.

I know I'm being all contrary. But I want to make sure we aren't biting off more than we can chew at the beginning.

RE: No, I get what you're saying....

Date: 2017-03-20 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vegawriters.livejournal.com
1) I agree. I guess I just want to walk carefully - especially in how it's presented to others. Participation in comms is all about how welcome people feel and honestly, I know I'm a decent writer and I find myself going "but how do I qualify again" ... so.

2) That works. Like I said, for me, it's personal. I'm not writing fic right now - save for a kind of CSI offshoot that is really it's own original story at this point. I wouldn't mind getting back into it, I actually would LOVE to get back into it, but there's a part of me that's like "welllllllll ...." so we'll see.

3) Get Your Words Out (http://getyourwordsout.livejournal.com/profile) It's fantastic. And you can only join once a year, but it's a great way to really focus your writing.

4) I agree with fairness - and this is just a case by case basis. But if the comm takes off, you're going to get a lot of people who don't have a history of crit. So are we going to do crit trainings? Or will crit just be limited to those of us who are original members?

RE: No, I get what you're saying....

Date: 2017-03-20 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirrani.livejournal.com
I think it's safe to say that if Joy put us here, she trusts OUR writing. Forgive me for putting words in your mouth, Joy. ;) The vetting, as I understand it, is for when people come in off the street and want to be a part of something, but (and pardon my honesty) are only looking for someone to read their grammatically and structurally thrown together trash. I used to sort through Enterprise fic back in the day and you could really tell the difference between writers writing and people just throwing ideas on paper because it felt sexy or was a tiny good plot point wrapped in a horrible or inappropriate writing style.

RE: No, I get what you're saying....

Date: 2017-03-21 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirrani.livejournal.com
Bless you in advance.

RE: No, I get what you're saying....

Date: 2017-03-21 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vegawriters.livejournal.com
I'll admit I'm nervous about things like time commitment and the like and there are reasons I'm throwing out these questions - I had three newbies at the SLC Writers Group last night and they asked the same kinds of questions I'm asking here.

I'm willing to go along with the flow, but for me, I don't think I was expecting things like vetting and time commitment right off the bat. So that's a part of it too. I kind of was thinking this was a place where we'd just come together to share fic. And that's on me because I didn't ask the questions right at the beginning. :)

aaaah!

Date: 2017-03-20 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirrani.livejournal.com
OMG. I COMPLETELY forgot about Dragonheart! How the heck did I do that? Throw me down for that, not that anyone else anywhere is going to be writing it, but when I went to look at my web page from ages ago, I realized Dragonheart was there. No idea where Rose Among Thorns got off to, because it wasn't actually linked there any more, but I am so going to try and rewrite that. HAHA! Darn shame the thing is missing, the page is beautiful. I suppose you can also put me down for knowledge of Pern, not that anyone is going to be writing that either. I am so sorry, my poor dragons!

http://home.earthlink.net/~mirrani/dragon/index.html

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